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Murasame
10 months ago
As an auxiliary weapon if his dominant arm gets paralyzed, I can understand the need to craft and train the upside down grip bow. It’s behind the shield so he has to turn it upside down to access the string to draw it.
Joe_Cebu79
10 months ago
What’s with all these weird weapons? If such weapons were really benifical people would have made them and used them in real life. The only other factor is magic but that really isn’t used as the main weapon or shield.
Murimhater
11 months ago
I don’t think an bow with an upside down grip would work.
Well, I mean using that wouldn’t work.
Try this:
Hold a (broom) stick in your fist
Have the most part (or the broom part) stick out in thumb direction.
Turn it “thumbs down”.
Without lifting your elbow up, if done in front of you.
See? It is actually pretty hard to do that, and or your shoulder is considerably twisted while doing that. If you now would to use most of your arms strength in that position, could you do that?
I can’t.
Because the bones in your forearm only allow for that much twisting motion, the rest has to come from your shoulder joint, however that is an action usually not done, and can’t be hold for long (soft tissue pinched between bones) nor with full strength, as this position doesn’t lock in place with the natural resting of the bones, but rather has to be actively supported by your shoulder muscles.
A good bow takes most of your strength to draw! (Not all of it as you have to be able to hold it for a while to aim properly, and you have to be able to do multiple shots. And also not too little or else the arrow doesn’t have enough power behind)
The pulley system he incorporates is the way to go, though. It is part of the modern composite bow.
Brief history of bow shapes, and the improvements made.
The first bows were … well … bow shaped. Even without the (bow) string it’s roughly shallow c-shaped, and the string completes the D shape. If you, as a kid, made a bow to play with, that’s probably how it looked like. However that design is bad. Really bad. It only gives power to the arrow up to the point where the string is in the relaxed position of the bow. Which is quite far from the handle.
The solution to this is quite simple: Draw the bow in the “wrong” direction. However that does only really work when the string also is mounted in the wrong direction. But that comes with a lot of drawbacks and challenges if done on a normal bow. The tips of the bow are too thin, bending too much and letting the string slip off. Solution: reinforce them with material that doesn’t bent or very little. Usually horn was used for that. Tied and glued down to the wooden tips. Usually with wood tar between the parts and a good amount onto the string wrapped around as well. String as in sinew, like the bow string. Next is the handle. The string would come very close to that position. So, instead of leaving that part as is, a handle is carved out there. However that also would introduce a weak point there and make it bend even more than it did before. And you don’t want that. So that part is carved even thinner and reinforced with horn or metal. Tada! You now have a composite bow, as the bow is composed of different materials. Not counting the bow string, the bow is made from wood, wood or coal tar as glue, horn for reinforce the wooden parts, and sinews as reinforcements for the glue. This bow is vastly superior in strength from the first bow type. However the traditional one has weaknesses. Well one. Rain. The sinew used to reinforce the parts gets soft and weak if wet, and the glue isn’t strong enough to keep the parts together.
In comes the modern composite bow. It got rid of the wood, and uses materials as metal, carbon fiber, and modern high strength glue/resin. And the bow string is on a pulley system as you couldn’t draw it otherwise. They have the length of a short bow, but the energy stored is bigger than in a long bow. >>Tangent: A bow is basically a spring, that transfers the energy stored to the arrow. That means the energy is the biggest when fully drawn, that means you need the most strength then. And it also means the most power is transferred to the arrow if you let go, dropping off as time goes on. However when you release the arrow, it is at rest, which means it itself is put under a lot of stress, making it bend, or even break (if it hasn’t a bulge/the shaft is thicker in the middle). That energy will be lost. Shortly before the arrow leaves the bow, there’s next to nothing transferred, it just only keeps the arrow from loosing speed. <<Tangent end<< Also the pulleys of it aren’t round which changes the behavior of how the power is stored/released. Instead of tiring your arms out by holding the bow in a position where the most strength is needed, that point takes the least amount of strength. And the power transfered to the arrow increases (instead of decreasing) over time pumping much more power into the arrow. The result is basically like a crossbow without the drawbacks of a crossbow. As the power is comparable. (drawbacks crossbow: heavy, needs wench to draw, slow loading)
I doubt it is incorporated in the correct way for a modern composite bow, as the author probably doesn’t know about that.
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bobbityjack
2 years ago
Just to be clear: a bowyer is a person who makes bows, it’s not the same as an archer (though, of course, there is overlap)
Mike Stone
2 years ago
At this point I’m expecting him to create a weapon from rwby
As an auxiliary weapon if his dominant arm gets paralyzed, I can understand the need to craft and train the upside down grip bow. It’s behind the shield so he has to turn it upside down to access the string to draw it.
What’s with all these weird weapons? If such weapons were really benifical people would have made them and used them in real life. The only other factor is magic but that really isn’t used as the main weapon or shield.
I don’t think an bow with an upside down grip would work.
Well, I mean using that wouldn’t work.
Try this:
See? It is actually pretty hard to do that, and or your shoulder is considerably twisted while doing that. If you now would to use most of your arms strength in that position, could you do that?
I can’t.
Because the bones in your forearm only allow for that much twisting motion, the rest has to come from your shoulder joint, however that is an action usually not done, and can’t be hold for long (soft tissue pinched between bones) nor with full strength, as this position doesn’t lock in place with the natural resting of the bones, but rather has to be actively supported by your shoulder muscles.
A good bow takes most of your strength to draw! (Not all of it as you have to be able to hold it for a while to aim properly, and you have to be able to do multiple shots. And also not too little or else the arrow doesn’t have enough power behind)
The pulley system he incorporates is the way to go, though. It is part of the modern composite bow.
I doubt it is incorporated in the correct way for a modern composite bow, as the author probably doesn’t know about that.
Just to be clear: a bowyer is a person who makes bows, it’s not the same as an archer (though, of course, there is overlap)
At this point I’m expecting him to create a weapon from rwby